EDIT: 13 AUG 2012: Social media analytics site StatusPeople.com has found that as of 13 Aug 2012 77% of “Bob’s” 180,000 followers are fake, fraudulent, spam or purchased followers. Here. We’ve known for some time that in addition to running a fraud based wagering tout service that Bob purchases large chunks of followers, we just had no idea it was so many.
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For those of you living under a rock during the post-lockout deluge of free agent signings, Twitter user @incarceratedbob is a self proclaimed “insider” who spends his days tweeting supposedly “breaking news” on a variety of New York and national sports topics. Bob claims he’s faster than the national media, and that he’s “first” to break nearly every story that comes across the wire.
I was first introduced to “Bob” with his infamous
“**BREAKING NFL NEWS**Source: NY JETS have come to an agreement in “principle” with Nnamdi Asomugha (He left big money on the table) “
Tweet. I was admittedly skeptical, but willing to at least do due diligence, and fact check this report before re-tweeting it (and possibly adding Bob to my list of “must follows”). The problem was, that as soon as I did any fact checking, his “story” broke down.
Calls to both Ben Dogra (Nnamdi’s agent), and the Jets’ front office both confirmed that no deal had been agreed to, “in principal” or otherwise. Immediately I tweeted that the report was false, and that it had been confirmed false by both parties in the negotiations. “Bob” however insisted otherwise, and that the story would play itself out (which of course it did, Asomugha ending up with the Eagles, and not as Bob claimed, the Jets).
I spent the rest of that day attempting to become more acquainted with Bob’s “work.” Over the course of the past year he has released a myriad of “breaking news” stories through Twitter that have been outright untrue regarding LeBron, Kobe, Carmelo Anthony, Cliff Lee, Darrell Revis, Braylon Edwards, and Wade Phillips just to name a few.
I pointed out to Bob, over Twitter, that his report was not only wrong, it was complete fiction, only to have myself blocked by him over Twitter immediately (which seems to be his favorite tactic in dealing with any and all criticism), and his followers immediately started tweeting me words of support for Bob, mostly to the extent that “Bob is better than ESPN” etc, along with other juvenile nonsense about my being a supposed “hater.”
So, I figured, why not take emotion out of the equation. Why not look at Bob objectively, and analyze his “reports” for accuracy, and come to a fair and unbiased conclusion. No “hate” just statistics.
So I went over Bob’s 16,000+ tweets, looking for predictions, reports and the like. What I found was that a large portion of his Tweets are simply chest thumping self promotion and rallying speeches for his followers, urging them to retweet to the world how “good” he is (over 40% of his total tweets). I didn’t want to grade Bob unfairly, so I threw those out, along with any “breaking news” tweets that could possibly be misconstrued for an opinion, instead of an actual report–after all, I don’t want artificially lower Bob’s grade, just because he “thought someone might go somewhere.”
What I found was alarming.
On actual “breaking reports” tweets, with specific information, Bob “broke” (or Tweeted before anyone else) the story little better than 2% of the time. A quick search of Twitter timelines shows that Bob simply copied the Tweets of some of his followers, nearly word for word, from a few minutes earlier. Some of those followers had knowingly sent Bob the information, some appeared to be blatantly plagiarized. Either way, Bob’s claim that he’s first is at best dubious as there is ample evidence to support he isn’t, and at worst outright fabrication (like many other things about him, as we shall see).
On accuracy of “reporting,” Bob fared much better. He scored a 29% accuracy rating with how often his “reports” turned out ultimately to be correct. I don’t know what kind of education most of you have, but the schools I went to taught me that 29% accuracy, was a miserable failure. An “F” as my first grade teacher Ms. Johnston called it. I’m not sure your political bent, dear reader, but if it were provable that either FOX or MSNBC reported the news with 29% accuracy, both would be out of business, and the punchline of many a joke.
What @incarceratedbob is, is a master self promoter. He elicits a strong reaction in people, and uses that to pit the unsuspecting people who follow him, against those who know that he has no actual “sources” on anything. He tries to help himself establish credibility, by getting known reporters(like Adam Schefter) to re-tweet him as a tacit endorsement, and using fake Twitter accounts to offer himself jobs. On the day I was briefly a follower of Bob, two fake Twitter accounts (one has been taken down, the other @SiriusVP was confirmed fake by the very real @SiriusXMSports ) purported to offer him jobs. He also allows others to do softball positive write ups on him, that contain nothing but fluff and prop up his claims of accuracy, with no actual data behind them.
Bob has created a cult of personality around himself and his followers, who, as human beings, are predisposed to being trusting and do little research beyond the man’s claims that he is more accurate, and faster than the national media. As humans we are also predisposed to not believing we’re wrong, and thus, once Bob has them invested in him it is hard to shake their faith.
What Bob does with most of his “reports” are what is commonly referred to as weasel wording. Bob simply makes up a report, based on possible logical destinations of a player, parses his words so that he can go back later and claim that he wasn’t wrong.
For instance, this Tweet, from Oct 11 of last year:
in which Bob suggests that he has some actual news, when in fact all he is saying is that he’s either psychic (there’s no such thing), or that he’s just floating an idea. Later Bob backpedaled on this tweet, which was a shame…if he’d ridden it out he may have been eligible for a cool million dollar prize.
Another common tactic is “shotgun suggesting.” For instance, today (I set up an alternate Twitter account to comb through Bob’s tweets, as he has blocked my actual account for daring to criticize him) Bob tweeted:
As you can see, Bob has increased his odds, simply by pointing out multiple teams. Later he will go back and claim this as a hit, should any one of them actually turn out to be true. It’s a tactic Bob uses often.
Now, I’m not as well connected within the community as I’d like to be, but I can and do speak to a number of NFL teams, agents, and beat reporters and I couldn’t find a single one who’d ever spoken to Bob. Over the past couple of days I polled a large section of my contacts, and couldn’t find anyone who could, on or off the record, recall a single conversation with him. I did however, get several off the record comments calling him a complete fraud.
One Rangers beat reporter relayed a story about talking to the Rangers front office, when Bob’s errant Cliff Lee story “broke” and quoted a senior Rangers official as saying that “know nothing jackasses should be banned from blogging” in reference to Bob and his made up report.
In all my research on Bob, all I could come up with was a handful of good guesses, drowned out by a lot of fiction sprung from the mind of a shameless self promoter. His accuracy, despite the numbers he reports, is actually dismal. He is hardly the first one to tweet the things he does, as anyone who bothers to check the Twitter timeline can easily verify, and I can’t find anyone, outside of the anonymous confines of the internet, with anything positive to say about him.
Obviously as I am blocked, I couldn’t reach @incarceratedbob for a comment on this piece, but if anyone else can reach him, he can message me on Twitter, and I’ll include his thoughts here as well.
Phenomenon or fraud? The conclusion seems simple enough to me.
EDIT: Since Zeusofsport.com objected to my claim that their writer, @Wills_Klein was a buddy of Bob’s, doing a puff piece, I’ve decided to include the recent tweets from @Wills_Klein’s timeline below, so that readers can decide for themselves.







Even the people who know the guy has no sources continue to believe him for a couple reasons… I have a friend who’s basically on his d*** and I’ll explain why; he’s like most:
1) He believes that while he has no sources, he still gets the information all together- requiring him to follow one person who does all the searching and what not for him
2) he responds to many tweets and as a guy who’s well “liked” by his community, any chance of getting “in” with him is worth sucking up to him
3) being able to say you knew something before someone else, which seems to be the revolving idea around Twitter now, even though as you pointed out– he’s right only 29% of the time
For the rest, they simply haven’t learned what we and others have. Trust me, we’re also not the only ones– if this guy was LEGIT and proven, he’d easily have 100K followers. Everyone wants information on a “need to know NOW” basis, so that’s why guy’s like this get attention.
And I don’t know the guy, but just judging off what I’ve seen he must have a pretty sad life if he needs to get his nut over pretending to be some credible source (guys like Schefter) for the attention that comes from it.
Incarcerated Bob didn’t ask @Wills_Klein to do the piece on @Zeus_of_Sport. He decided to himself. Hard for you to claim a guy is a fraud and makes stuff up when you make outrageous claims like that. The blog is run by Northwestern students, along with one Ohio State student, not professionals who care about making relationships with others in the industry. We’re hardly going to give up the integrity of our website to perpetuate Bob unless we feel there is reason to do so. Fact.
Given @Wills_Klein’s extremely friendly responses of support to Bob via Twitter, and the simple regurgitating of errant data in Mr. Klein’s story (your quote that Bob was 11 of 11 until the Nnamdi signing is easily refuted by doing 5 minutes worth of research) it certainly seems as though he’s a friend/fan doing a puff piece. Any real journalist fact checks stories before printing them. Something Wills Klein will need to learn if he ever plans on having a career in the business.
You’ve already dented the integrity of your website by propping Bob up, without doing any fact checking. This speaks to your researching process, and drains a lot of credibility from what otherwise looks to me, like a pretty decent site. Since you say you feel there is a reason to perpetuate Bob (or you wouldn’t have posted the story), we’d love to hear what that reason and its supporting evidence is.
If you think I did a piece on Incarcerated Bob because I support him, you are dead wrong. Although I do support him, your claims about me and my facts have nothing to do with the point I am trying to get across with my article. If you go back and read what I later commented on a readers post you’ll understand a bit more where I am coming from. Do not think this piece was written to gain exposure because I can sure do believe in Bob and you will see that when I release my Q & A with him from last night.
And if you want to stir the pot with me, do it on my site. Not this bogus article with statistics that mean close to nothing when your dealing with this type of media delivery.
“First of all, he doesn’t wiff hardcore on ANYTHING. There has been 0 reports that he has ever gotten incorrect and another news source has had correct.
Blogs do not break stories. The only blogs that EVER break any stories are Sportsbybrooks and Deadspin, and that is it.
What you have to understand is that the world of sports media and reporting is completely different now with Twitter. These guys from ESPN report rumors and that is without a doubt. What makes it any different when Bob reports a rumor? Who cares if it ends up being wrong, his reports were 17/20. Yeah yeah okay maybe he didn’t get the Cliff Lee deal right or Melo, but these are big deals where there isn’t any reporter that doesn’t know what’s going on. So, what does Bob do? He reports anything he has and in my book any rumor is better than no rumor. So what if he is wrong sometimes. That is what happens when a social media platform becomes the golden standard of reporting in society today. Don’t blame that on Bob for using the resources he has, reporting what he’s told, and seeing what happens.
In my recent interview with Bob he told me that he wouldn’t sell himself out to mainstream media because he is trying to have fun with this and it isn’t like he forced people to listen to him on Twitter or follow him. It isn’t his fault that he broke the Revis story before anyone from ESPN or any Jets beat writer. There is a reason why this guy is being followed by 15,000+ people on Twitter and that is really because this is such a fickle business. The world of rumors and quick reporting was once dominated by Rotoworld (and I used to think they were fast), but Twitter has allowed anyone with any resources to post anything they want. The bottom line is that for any sane NFL fan, he has gotten enough right before other reporters to prove that he is worthy. SO worthy that Adam Schefter tweeted at him multiple times and texted him multiple times during the week of free agency.
Listen, its no fluke that during the most ridiculous free agency period in the history of the league the guy got A LOT of these reports correct. The ESPN guys can report if a guy has “a lot of interest” or use other terminology besides saying it is “done” to get their point across and NONE of these guys from ESPN chose to do that a whole bunch.
His source within the league told him the Jets were gonna wrap up Nnamdi and his word has enough of an effect to make people believe what could be going on.
Let’s also keep in mind here that Bob doesn’t just do NFL, he does all four major professional sports. There isn’t one other person in sports that does that, eh maybe 1/2 of Chris Berman in a sense, but that is impressive in itself that he can get information from every league. The main idea here is that although he might not act like a professional journalist in any sense (obviously), the emergence of Twitter has completely changed the way news is delivered to us now. There is a grey area for what is right and wrong to Tweet and it is only a matter of time until we find out what restrictions are put on reporters from highly touted sources when it comes to what they post. Bob doesn’t have that problem and although it may not be RIGHT in your eyes, its the way the world is today and regardless of where it is coming from, so anyone who could be a credible source will always have a voice in the large world of the world wide web. What is right and wrong is a petty game to play when it comes to Free Agency, especially with a guy who has nailed stories NO ONE else has before.
I understand the value of journalistic integrity and only reporting what you know is 100% correct. I write for a school newspaper and study journalism, so understanding what your saying is not something you should question. When it comes to the game of rumors, hearsay, and gathering info from sources the game changes especially when that game has placed itself on Twitter. We can sit here and worry about whether if it is right or wrong to post things without being absolutely positive, but at the end of the day all that matters is how QUICK the news is reported and what ends up happening and Bob does that best. Who cares about being politically correct, its not like Twitter is anyways.”
There is my supporting evidence and my true opinion. Take it how you want to, but this is an OPINION based topic.
Also, one of the last things I care about is credibility. I write for a blog, if you care about what I am saying, read it, if not, I couldn’t care less.
This sentence in different words, reads “also I couldn’t care less if what I post is true…”
I already posted this on your website, but since you re-posted the comment here it’s fair to reply to again.
‘We can sit here and worry about whether if it is right or wrong to post things without being absolutely positive, but at the end of the day all that matters is how QUICK the news is reported’
Like I told you on your site, you’re probably in the wrong business if you think that the speed of delivery is more important than the accuracy of the information. Then again, you seem pretty proud and content to run a blog and don’t care what others think, so maybe you’ll be just fine never doing anything more than that in the news business.
Wills, if you are really honest in saying that you don’t care about credibility, do us all a favor and get out of the business now. You are not even remotely close to being cut out to be a journalist with that type of mentality.
Wills, I’m not trying to stir the pot with you, I’m trying to point out that you aren’t doing any research, and claiming things as facts that are not. Bob has missed many, many times (71% of the tie to be exact) on a variety of topics. If you’d bothered to read my piece here, you’d have seen that I’ve already pointed out what Bob is, and isn’t. You bought into his hype, and now you’re one of the people defending him, but the facts don’t support you, or him.
You also stated that “bogs don’t break stories” which is absolutely false. In today’s world most stories are broke via beat-writers and blogs, and simply relayed over Twitter. Ultimately they wind up in the hands of the major sports networks who confirm and then report them to the masses. What bothers me about you, and your reporting about Bob, isn’t that it’s about Bob…it’s that it’s done with a complete lack of journalistic integrity, and that you seem to be completely ignorant of journalistic process and review, despite your claim that you’re studying journalism at Ohio State. That says a lot about either you as a student, or their program…and since I know people who have graduated form Ohio State’s journalism program, and don’t have questionable journalistic integrity, I’m willing to bet, that your comments are simply an indictment of your journalistic ethics.
Bob’s a fraud, and no softball Q&A , where you regurgitate his claims about accuracy that have already proven to be demonstrably false is going to change that. If you want to continue to chain your horse (and reputation) to that wagon, so be it, but it reflects poorly on you and ultimately your site. I can’t in good conscience read a site that knowingly avoids looking at the facts, to try to better promote themselves (which is all your trying to do via Bob and his followers), congratulations on tanking the reputation of your site for the sake of a few readers.
To put the rest of the BS aside, you see Twitter as something that is hurting the integrity of journalism. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT, IT REALLY IS. But, I have gotten past that and all that crap because I believe that Twitter is something that is REVOLUTIONIZING the way news is delivered to us these days, especially when it comes to NFL free agency.
The reason why these guys on Twitter you think are “getting it before him” is because THOSE ARE THE GUYS GIVING HIM THE INFORMATION. THOSE ARE HIS INSIDE SOURCES. This is what Bob told me and I am going with that.
I don’t see Twitter as hurting the integrity of journalism, I see people like yourself who don’t care about the integrity of journalism as hurting journalism. Twitter is revolutionizing the way news is delivered, but its also allowing those who don’t care about the facts, and credibility (as you’ve already admitted you don’t) to put out a lot of false information. False information is the bane of any journalists’ existence, be they blogger or Adam Schefter…
Just out of curiosity, have you contacted those people to see if they gave Bob the info, or did you just take his word for it that he wasn’t plagiarizing them? Do yourself a favor and do some research, or you’re just going to have another puff piece on your hands…
Fox does report the new accurately less than 29% of the time, and they are a laughingstock because of it. Unfortunately, like incarceratedbob’s followers, they have a viewership that believes them anyway.
Hey buddy, Incarcerated Bob never said he was at the super bowl he was detained while watching the SB at a bar in the city (NY) also his name was given to him by the former QB Boomer Esiason and his co-host Craig Carton when he was released from jail, so at least get the facts correct. Oh just a little FYI: Bobby nailed the Kevin Boss story that is now 18 out of 21 correct! Choke on that also seems like these articles just gain Incarcerated Bob more fame (Followers) you actually spread the word about him better then he does.. HATERS GONNA HATE!
Bob isn’t 18 out of 21. If you bothered to look at all the wrong guesses he’s made, you’d see that…but of course, like most, you’ll simply take him at his word. He also wasn’t the first to report the Boss rumor, he stole it from @VittorioTafur who reported it first… but again, even the tiniest bit of fact checking would have showed that.
Lets get even more literal here. How do you know he “stole” the news from that Raiders writer? Where does it say that? How do you know he didn’t simply get the information from him. I did my research and I e-mailed him and got no response. A bit fishy I think. But you claim he stole it, so it must be right big guy.
This is all 100% factual. Bob went to jail because of a bar fight during the SB in nyc. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and served 11 months.
Listen, this is one of Wills’ colleagues at Zeus of Sport. There’s nothing wrong with trying to get exposure for a start up blog by seizing the opportunity to write about and interview a well-known person in the industry. That being said, only a few members of Zeus are interested in journalism, and they all go to a top-3 journalism school in the World (Medill). I hardly think any one on this blog is qualified enough to question the credentials of the blog as a whole. We write because we like sports, not because we like journalism or blogging itself. As Wills said, its our opinions and perspectives. If you don’t like them, that’s fine, but don’t question whether or not we respect ourselves enough to sell out and pretend to be something we’re not.
I’m questioning them, whether you think I’m qualified or not. Whether or not Wills is interested in journalism or not, what you’re tacitly endorsing here is his continued repetition of outright fiction. IncarceratedBob is a proven liar, fraud, and plagiarist. A lot of the “information” repeated by Wills is fiction, sprung from the mouth of Bob. Real journalists wouldn’t stand for it, they’d laugh Bob out of the office. There’s a reason no major publication or network will touch him, he’s a known fraud. But that doesn’t seem to stop you guys from trying to strengthen your profile, by selling out to him. Which is fine, if all you’re going for is to be another internet tabloid.
The big question is, why aren’t you guys trying to raise your profile by doing actual quality work instead?
I’m sorry, Ben, perhaps I misunderstood what you’re trying to say here. You’re saying that Zeus has sacrificed journalistic integrity by writing about Incarcerated Bob, and essentially rehashing his “success” stories… but you’re not for wasting your time, and all of ours, by writing an article to try to take away his credibility? I don’t think you understand that calling him out doesn’t somehow increase your standing in the journalistic world. Go write a real article, loser. Zeus of Sport is a blog started by kids who are all going somewhere in life, and it’s simply a forum where they can talk about sports. What’s your stupid site?
Thank you @buddy of zeus. He took the 5 hours out of his day to check the 5,000 tweets of Bob. Apparently Allbright is too busy thinking he is running a blog that is going to get picked up by Bleacher Report rather than talking about whatever he truly feels. Cool, you think Bob is a fraud, but if you are going to sit there and nitpick my article I will gladly do the same.
What facts do you have that Bob is a fraud? That no national news source will talk about someone who is reporting information before them and has made them look like an absolute joke. The whole point of reporting on him was that there is close to no information about someone who is taking over the Twitter sports world by storm. I don’t write because I want to be a journalist and that is because I don’t. Maybe if I went to Medill that would be a bit different. You are the goon running a site called “nfl draft monsters” that profiles 6th round picks who are going to play 3rd string TE for the Raiders. Take your journalistic integrity and you can shove it up your ass.
I Must have struck a nerve pointing out your blatant fan boy puff piece on Bob. You’ve devolved to angry whining, claiming I’m picking on you. Son, you’re the one who claims he doesn’t care if the stories he writes are accurate or not as long as it brings you traffic (which is the only reason you did a piece on Bob in the first place). Don’t be angry with me for pointing out that you’re whoring yourself for site traffic, if you don’t like being called a hack, simply stop being one.
As for your comments on who we profile, obviously they were hyperbolic whining, you throwing a tantrum because I’ve pointed out that, by your own admission anything you type on your site is likely a worthless story, designed to drive traffic rather than give any actual information. You unwittingly bring up a point though. Everyone knows who the top 100-150 players are, real talent evaluation lies in those able to identify the later round players, so thank you for further asserting the quality of the work we do, even though in your obviously very limited mind, you had intended the remark as an insult.
Mr. Klein, If you were in any way serious about ending this back and forth between us, you would have already. I gave you my cell phone number days ago, and you acknowledged you received, yet haven’t called me. Stop whining in my comments section because I busted you writing a puff piece without a shred of fact checking. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Also, I don’t see how you’re going to take shots at @Wills_Klein for tweeting at Bob to get RT’ed. Any blog with 172 followers on twitter will take any exposure it can get. You’re a joke.
You don’t see how calling someone out for sacrificing journalistic integrity for the sake of exposure is a good idea? … And you think I’m the joke…? Wow. The Internet brings out every crackpot out there….
WAIT!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH
YOU’RE LITERALLY DOING EXACTLY THAT!
WHAT A JOKE!!!
No, I’m saying he sacrificed his integrity by not fact checking a story, and printing false information solely for exposure. How is that so difficult to get?
Hey idiot. You didn’t fact check your story either re: Wills. You’re a clown.
Yes… I did…
No moron. You accused him of being a friend of Bob, or Bob himself.
Reading comprehension sure isn’t your strong suit is it? Quote me where I accused Wills of being Bob…
I did post Wills tweets that show he’s at least a fan and supporter of Bob’s, who did an obvious fluff piece on him without any fact checking, but I never typed anything about them being the same person.
You might want to check your moron comments at the door, especially when you’re not intelligent enough to actually read what you’re commenting on.
And finally Allbright, I would love to hear your FACTUAL reasoning that he is a fraud. WITHOUT any interviewing, facts, and what not. Let’s see it big shot.
Reading comprehension sure isn’t your strong suit either. Either that, or you just selectively respond. You accused him of being a friend of Bob, which he isn’t. You’re a pathetic person, and a terrible writer. Get a life.
The Tweets from Mr. Klein’s timeline paint an opposite picture of what you’re suggesting. By “friend” I didn’t mean intimately acquainted, I meant simply that he was a supporter. He was decidedly pro-Bob before he ever wrote the piece, which is nothing more than an admiration/praise/fan boy piece.
Be mad at me all you want for calling it that, but it’s true. Klein sold out every journalistic principle in the book for a shot at a wider readership. Hope it works out for him, else he’s just a guy with no principles and no readers.
Hey, idiot. You’re doing exactly what you accused Bob of doing here. You called him a “friend,” but left the door open for you to say that he is just to an acquaintance. Looks like you’re learning from Bob!
All that aside, Wills isn’t a journalist… he’s a blogger. As are all of the Zeus writers. They’re college students, who are writing for fun. You on the other hand…
Get a life.
Classy people over there at Zeus of Sport. First they prop up a known liar as truthful, then they claim that facts don’t matter because they’re “just bloggers” and now they’ve devolved to playground name calling. I love how the guy keeps coming over to my site, bumbling around for excuses for why it’s ok to knowingly print inaccurate information, and then tells me to get a life.
Keep it coming buddy, the comedy you people have unwittingly peppered my comments section with is pure gold.
Everyone writes on blogs for enjoyment and at the end of the day, those people want readers. To do so, you write articles to gain exposure. There is a reason why so many people have read my article and PLEASE do not think it is because of your joke of an article. Oh yeah, if you think Bob is such a fraud, why would you follow him on Twitter?
Bring it on Ben
My guess, just a stab in the dark here, is that he follows/ed him on Twitter to review the accuracy of his tweets and compare the timeline amongst Bobs followers and other sport writters, you know, research, that thing that provides evidence and credibility to a piece of writing – but hey, just a hunch lol
Soo….Bob is the Eklund of Twitter lol, Got it!!
I think all Ben is trying to say here, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that Bob is simply copying information off of other users (hence the timeline Ben mentioned) and passing it off as his own – making him a fraud – now, common sense would indicate that if you are a source sharing this information for someone to BREAK, you would not post it to your own twitter account before they had the chance to BREAK the news – Bob claims to BREAK the news before anyone else, Ben has RESEARCHED this and found out that the news has already been broken before Bob announces it
Eklund used to (maybe still does lol) go onto websites that were calling him out and create accounts to defend himself, my guess is, that’s occured at least once during this attack on Ben
Great article Ben
When does Ben ever give an example of this?
LOL Im glad U posted something on this clown. All he does is take rumors from real reporters and then embellishes them towards a possible conclusion. He will hit on some because he gets the destinations narrowed down for him. He will pick one and run with it. If he hits he looks like he is the smartest guy in the room. If he misses he sweeps it under the rug. It amazes me people believe this crap. It actually worries me about the collected mindset of Americans. If there dumb enough to believe this guy, What else will they believe.
how about this one
@incarceratedbob **BREAKING NEWS** Jim Harbaugh has **OFFICIALLY** accepted the Miami Dolphins head coaching position : DONE DEAL!
so we r supposed to believe this guy has insider knowledge within every national and local media outlet,within every teams FO’s, and every agent because thats what he would need to back up his claims
By the way Im not sure that picture is actually of him.
Alot of guys claim he is asian.
“Bob, or now called Incarcerated Bob, was thrown into police cells for a fight with a TV reporter directly in Christmas day. Bob who have a real name Bob Raynaldy Cheung was angry because the reporter keep following him and asking questions when Bob is on vacation with his family.”
Here is a ? , Why does he hide behind a fake Moniker. if he is a real sports media mogul why does he seem like he is hiding. No real name , No real pictures.Could it be because he is a complete an utter fraud
A new twist to add to the story. Several sources have confirmed that @incarceratedbob is the mastermind behind a scam that involves several very average (tout) handicappers on Twitter. He spends a lot of time pumping them up and promoting them – only when they win. When they lose – which is quite often, he is nowhere to be found. Part of this fraud ring on Twitter are: @TeamMoneyPicks, @JLBSportsInfo and more. All of them use the same blog style web site, the same fonts and colors, the same language (which is poor – lots of misspelled words and bad grammar) and they all buy points almost every day. Moneylines up to -180 touted as “big plays” rather than taking the real odds (amateurs). The other thing they all do is chase with units. Lose 3 or 4 picks in a row and then throw out a 25 or 50 unit bomb (chase) play to catch up. Then if that hits they are all over Twitter with their buddies pumping up the win.
All of these guys are controlled by @incarceratedbob. It is possible that all of these guys are him – just 1 person pulling all the scams. He also goes after some very well known and popular forum handicappers and tries to discredit them on Twitter. He even had some guys make up dummy accounts on Twitter, stealing the names of prominent (free) forum handicappers. It has been proven that many of these touts controlled by ICB have kept false records in an attempt to deceive others. I just want to make sure this story is out there so people are aware and can make up their own minds. Since ICB is in control of the scam it is highly likely that he gets a healthy cut of whatever proceeds these scam artists pull in.
Notice they didn’t write up that Incarcerated Bob broke the Stevie Johnson story / Manning stories (Out for year) also his release.. Plus the other 75 stories he broke.. FYI : I am taking a screenshot of my comments and will show how BIAS this jealous site is of Incarcerated Bob, if they don’t post my comments.. You’re move now
If you’d bothered to look at the date, you’d have seen this article was written before either incident (Neither of which”Bob” broke).
Everyone knew the Bills were trying to resign Stevie Johnson, Bob claimed he would be signed in the next month (in late January) which didn’t happen, and he also wasn’t the first to break the Manning info, several others had it first.
It’s truly a shame how many gullible morons are duped by this hack. He busted himself lying about Michael Bush in his own podcast. The guy is a joke.
nice article on bob. we all know he’s a fruad, thanks for this article. he’s the elkund of football
There was also the instance over the summer where he “broke” that Steven Stamkos of the Lightning (NHL) had signed an offer sheet (he was RFA last off-season) with the Flyers.
Never happened. He brushed it off by saying that he had gotten false information from his source, I believe.
Wow, if these guys are Medill students, I can only shake my head and deplore the future of American journalism.
I suspect they’re not, though, as they really did just purely miss the point nearly every time on that laughable back and forth up there, not to mention misspellings and grammar problems.
Good article. It’s long been obvious that Incarcerated Bob has nothing but guesses and what he copies from real sources, but thanks for doing the research anyway.
What an epic page! Good job Ben in exposing this.
Notice no new updates on the stories he broke (Mario Williams / Nicks / V Jackson / Carr – Cowboys : Yep i have screenshots of all and he broke them before ANYONE!
Jealousy is a MotherF***er this site clearly is jealous.
Oh wait, when Incarcerated Bob gets stuff right he is “Guessing” and everyone knew it (What’s funny is “EVERYONE” had Manning to the Titans and Niners since Thursday) not IBN he had it correct! Dela with it
FYI: Another screenshot will be taken ; Please don’t post this comment so the NY Times article can expose you.
Not only is your statement that he broke those stories before anyone untrue (a simple Twitter timeline search debunks that), why would I update every ridiculous guess the guy throws out?
He went 1 for 3 on the day Manning signed (missed badly on Matt Flynn and Reggie Nelson). 33% correct. All you’re doing is counting his supposed “hits” and ignoring his very obvious misses. Hilariously, two of the teams he said showed interest in Tebow, never even called about him, and the third wasn’t the team that signed him (Bob’s hometown team for the record).
Regarding Manning, Bob guessed that Manning would join the Broncos a week out, that is true. However, he also put out tweets saying that Manning wouldn’t work out for the Niners and Titans (both of which he did), and when Bob made his guess, Manning is on the record as having not told anyone anything regarding a decision yet.
More guessing from Bob.
Purported jealousy, screen shots, and some New York Times nonsense from you, I really don’t know what to do with as none of that gibberish is in any way real. Have fun following a guy (“Bob”) who is very obviously the ringleader in a wagering/tout scam.
Hey Benjamin…. JEALOUSY IS A MOTHERF**ER :
Bob nailed 8 out of 10 stories (For the record he never had Flynn and Dolphins he RT another guys story. Already proven with screenshots)
All Stories Bob Nailed Below:
Carr – Cowboys (12 Hours Before Any Media)
Nicks – Tampa (2 Hours before any outlet)
Vincent Jackson – Tampa (2hours 21mins before Schefter)
Mario Williams – Bills (11Hours before PFT & ESPN – Florio stated Williams leaving Buffalo area – IBN stated not true he has signed with Bills.. We all know what happened!)
Peyton Manning – Broncos (Everyone stated he would be going back to Tennessee & Bob never wavered had the Broncos since Wednesday, March 14th & he stated “WORKOUTS WITH OTHER TEAMS ARE DUE DILIGENCE ON PEYTONS END-STILL SIGNING WITH BRONCOS” (Never did he say no workouts would take place – also have screenshots of that if you wanna get exposed some more Jealous Ben)as we all know every media hack had Peyton to the Titans or 49Ers and how did that work out? BOB NAILS THE BIGGEST STORY OF THE YEAR… AGAIN!
Tim Tebow – Jets Trade ( Told everyone Jets upped offer to 4thRd pick they where on the verge of getting him – 41Mins later Schefter broke story that jets got Tebow for a 4th & 6th…Hmmmmmm hell of a fuess huh. Yeah Bob got em all real mad with that one.
Alex Smith – Re-signed With SF (2 Hours before anyone Bob posted on his blog “ALEX SMITH BACK WITH 49ERS–DEAL DONE” PFT & ESPN where still talking about Miami as a possible destination.. Bob wins again!
Misses For Bob:
Lofton -Bucs (He whiffed on this signing , Lofton had a good offer but declined it–Bob jumped gun and reported it)
Nelson -Jets (Bob & 2 other media members reported Nelson was real close with Jets – He left and signed with Cincy.. I guess you can count this as a miss, but IBN never said deal was done.. But hey lets give the “JEALOUS HATERS” something to enjoy.
So in closing this is this years timeline of Bob’s Hits & Misses. As i stated before i will take screenshots and hope you don’t post this – i will in turn post this on every blog/forum/twitter acct i can find and expose you as nothing but a “JEALOUS SAD LITTLE MAN” #MAD that #IBN Incarcerated Bob owned FA again.. As IBN would say “HOW’S MY ASS TASTE!”
P.S.: Please let me expose you i am so itching to do it..
Bob did have Flynn to the Doplhins, he retweeted himself. @Teammoneypicks, JBLSportsino, BigEastexpert, BP_Picksource, these are all the same person, and all part of a wagering ring scam run by Bob and his buddy Randizzle14.
I don’t know why you source PFT and ESPN for who was first, they’re generally slower than the beat reporters on Twitter by hours (hint: Bob is too).
Yes, you have a few screen shots, I do too, of Bob making the wrong guesses I’ve already posted, before posting the new guesses you’re talking about here. He isn’t 8/10, and anyone with the ability to do basic addition and subtraction can see that. If you want to be duped by the guy, more power to you, but you don’t need to post to the world how ignorant you are, here.
As far as “exposing” me, that’s such a laughable concept I’m inclined to tell you to go ahead. There’s nothing to expose. I already exposed Bob as a fraud, a liar, and nothing more than a guy who guesses with no sources. It’s done.
So go ahead and “expose” me as someone who wanted to know if Bob was reliable, gathered the facts, and found out he wasn’t. Expose away. By the way, how’s the weather on Staten Island? You do know your IP is recorded every-time you visit, right?
There’s no hatred involved. A few morons refuse to believe that I guess, but they’re entitled to their stupidity. Acting juvenile with that “why you mad” nonsense, when they keep coming back here proving they’re the only ones angry…
“Expose me” LMAO, what will these goofballs come up with next?
haha im assuming this guy is bob
glad the Randizzle account was mentioned because that was a fraud too. the original Randizzle was very succcessful on another handicapping site and then Bob’s buddy used Randizzle14 on twitter and pretended to be successful at picks although there is no proof anywhere on a legit site. he has recently changed to at team money sports because people knew that wasnt the real Randizzle.
Will Robert Cheung come clean already?
I’ve talked to Bob about this whole ‘Breaking News’ thing and he needs to focus more on what type of eggs our customers want. He also needs to stop talking about the taste of his a$$ and ‘Randizzle’.
I wrote an article for my blog on why IC is legit, but after ready this article I am considering removing it because facts are facts. I also do not like the way how Bob calls out people on a regular basis but when someone calls him out they immeditely get blocked.
Bob is a fucking moron, liar, loser, fraud, etc. This guy doesn’t even know how to talk to speak correctly in a conversation, as heard in a few YouTube videos of him calling into a Buffalo radio station. Every thing about this guy is made up, going back to when he first started received his infamous nickname. Supposedly he went to jail for a year for assaulting a Patriots fan in a bar in Manhattan, and he was bragging on air about his previous twitter avatar, which can be Googled by the way, was taken after he came home from jail and that was how much he had bulked up while he was incarcerated. That is the only picture (though its fake anyway) that “Bob” has showed of himself, now preferring to go with the IBN logo instead. One would think that this guy would’ve been seen in public at least once after about 3 years of constant breaking stories and supposed “connections” that he seems to have. Bob’s strategy is pretty obvious to anyone with at least a 6th grade education. The guy hears a rumor then calls its a “done deal” before it actually happens. If he’s correct, it’s bragging material for him forever & when he’s wrong, its a quick delete of the tweet. I don’t know who’s sadder: Bob himself or his followers who actually stand behind him & believe any word he tweets. One can probably conclude that most of his followers are probably 15 year olds who dont know any better anyway.
Why haven’t you exposed the gambling ring he runs with four accounts(which are all him), he touts them everyday on his account even though they consistently all lose in the long run.
With four chances, he touts the one that has a good day and hopes a few suckers sign up and send him some money through paypal.
This whole fake source stuff on his own account is to get more attention which leads to followers. The goal is to then flip them to the gambling accounts…
This has to be the worst scam going on twitter, can’t believe it hasn’t been exposed and shit down yet…
Everything about this guy is fake, and @teammoneypicks , @MrSharp911 , @Bigeastprofit and @JLB4422PICKS are all the same person which of course is @incarceratedbob… Quite a scam he has going..
Many people pretend they have sources(which they do not and he doesn’t either, but most don’t relay them to losing gambling accounts and have them lose money..
Please expose this tooo….
I was so happy when Bob broke the news that Chip Kelly to the Browns was a done deal. That was the first and last time i came across him. Oh and he was first on that one.
What I cant work out is why is Chip coaching the Eagles when bob said he was coaching the Browns?
Can someone please explain this?